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Grace Davis writes: Im thinking that the anniversary of Katrina will be overshadowed by the five year anniversary of 9/11 and as much as I was horrified about 9/11, as much as I was doing the same angry sobbing that day and for days afterwards, ... [Read More]

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Joe Nedney

"But, our own government attacked its own citizens along the Gulf Coast with its blind ineptitude and thinly disguised disdain."

Wow, that is just insane.

e

amen to this lady. i was saying something similar at the time and was chided for it among bloggers. in general, we are clueless; what katrina has shown us is that we are resolutely clueless. we all imagine ourselves to be at the lowest common denominator, it's more comfortable that way.

unfortunately, though, what she says about black folks running actually wasn't the case on 9/11. the overwhelming proportion of victims of 9/11 were minorities,the people who work in the back offices of the Street. we didn't really notice that because there were white folks to concentrate on, most especially the firemen. as far as katrina, it was something of a more equal opportunity offender, the critical difference being that it didn't happen where it counts.

speaking of which, i can't see the spike lee thing, not having cable.

landismom

The Spike Lee thing is amazing, and I've also just started reading Douglas Brinkley's book "Deluge" about what led up to the flooding and after it. Nagin comes off quite a bit worse in Brinkley's version than in Lee's. One of the things I remember writing about Katrina at the time was that the administration would not have the luxury of revisionist history, because there were so many people on screen, on air, and on the web who were recording it as it happened.

Mary Tsao

Thanks for speaking your mind, Grace. I hope I would run, too.

Liora

I would think her view is in the minority of the minority. Seems pretty racist to me. We weren't black and white on that day. Sad that even then she couldn't see the world otherwise. I see that as her individual failing, not the failing of society.

Roz

Delurking for at least one comment...(BTW, I love your blog...) as a former resident of New Orleans, having left before Katrina, thank God, while you are encouraging folks to vote out Republicans, please remind them, if they have the power, to vote out Kathleen Blanco. Though I quite agree that the feds dropped the ball, big time, at least part of the reason behind that was Blanco's unwillingness to give up one iota of power, even as her own people lay dying in the streets of the city. Ray Nagin made some mistakes, big ones, but at least he is more or less owning up to them, although I'm not sure he would have been my choice for re-election.. I didn't live through it and the folks that voted him back in, did. But there is NO excuse for her actions, other than she is an idiot. Was when I lived there, hasn't changed IMHO.

kerrianne

"Then, my middle-way self will gently push herself forward and try her best to see the balance of 9/11 and Katrina and everything else. That it's all suffering and that our work is to alleviate suffering, as much as we can.

Then, middle-way self reminds me of our most important task - alleviate the suffering, and start with oneself."

Beautifully said. Run well, GraceD. : )

kelly

Oof. I'll be rolling this around in my head all day. Thank you.

Rae

You are right. And I want to cry just reading that excerpt from Salon.com. I'm all full of emotion and anger now, thanks for the kick in the butt.

And those words *are* everyday considerations for Black Americans, and so many people have no clue, and I'm so glad that you wrote this and reminded me again of the terrible imbalance going on in this country.

Ceece

I'm going to have to agree with Liora's comments. When I heard about the towers and katrina, the color of these people's skin, was the last thing on my mind, until is was repeatedly THROWN IN MY FACE.

True, there is a terrible imbalance in this world when it comes to race, but if we truly want equality and we truly want to stop seeing color, then the language that was used in that excerpt should be frowned upon. I dare a white person to used her phrasing but switched it to read from:
The fact that tons of white people just stood there near the towers looking before they fell cracked him up. It confirmed the stereotype of white folks never thinking anything is ever going to happen to them. And since black people are used to fucked-up crap happening to them all the time they were trying to get the hell out of there.

Of course I spotted a few African-Americans looking lost. My dad just said that they've been around white people too damn long. Real black folks run.
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The fact that tons of black people just stood there near the towers looking before they fell cracked him up. It confirmed the stereotype of black folks never thinking anything is ever going to happen to them. And since white people are used to fucked-up crap happening to them all the time they were trying to get the hell out of there.

Of course I spotted a few white's looking lost. My dad just said that they've been around black people too damn long. Real white folks run.

They would have been strung up. Why? Because it's bullshit and exactly the type of stereotypical calling out that we "claim" to be fighting.

I am raising a 2 year old son in a world that cry's out for racial equality, and then something like this comes up. What should I tell him when he starts to question it? "Oh son, it's OK for one group to talk about how then want everyone to see them as equals but they can talk about whoever they want however they want".

I think it's hypocritical crap.

Ceece

PS. sorry for the novel.

Liz Henry

I disagree with Ceece. We can't be colorblind. Racism is huge, real, powerful, and terrible. It affected everything about Katrina and the disaster. We have to talk about race and racism in this country. Being "colorblind" is a luxury, a mark of extreme privilege.

I also believe what Grace said.

I would go even further. We are in a disaster every day. We don't have to wait for the Big Earthquake to do disaster relief. There is poverty in my town right now. We're in a horrible war on many fronts. Those are perpetual disasters.

We have to figure out how to work against them.

culotte

I disagree with you, Ceece.

"but if we truly want equality and we truly want to stop seeing color."

I feel that this is part of the problem. As Liz eloquently stated, being colorblind isn't going to address the issues.

And thank you Grace, for posting that excerpt.


Ceece

No you're both right. Racism does need to be talked about, but I don't think being colorblind makes you a person of privelage.

My "problem" is with the hypocrisy that goes along with it. White people are not "allowed" to point out that someone is black or asian and God forbid they make a stereotypical remark about someone a differant race then them, but if a "minority" does it, meh *shrugs shoulders*

birchsprite

Ummmmmm.........

I'm not an American.

I'm from Northern Ireland.

We've had Terrorism for the last thirty years....even longer than that really. We have started the long road to peace, through dialogue and trying to understand the other side.

But what I think we all really need to do, is to start recognising that there is no them or us. We are all essentially the same.

Constantly looking back to all the hurts and prejudices of the past only continues the pain and suffering.

The Irish have as chequered a past as anyone. We certainly haven't worked out the secret to peace. But maybe it's up to everyone in the world to start looking for it.

One thing I have noticed is that blogging can be totally free of race, colour, nationality etc. How do we really know what colour or creed the person writing is? We all seem to enjoy reading what others have to write irrespective of whether they would be in our social sphere in the real world. Surely this highlights the fact that underneath the superficial aspects of who we are, we are all essentially the same.

After all how else in the world would a Northern Irish woman be able to ramble on to this amazing collection of woman?

Does it really matter what we look like or what we sound like?

new yawka

as much as I was horrified about 9/11, as much as I was doing the same angry sobbing that day and for days afterwards, I think Katrina was worse, far worse.

This is the dumbest most idiotic stupid quote i have ever seen

Justin

Thats a whole lot of different "selfs" Grace. ;-)

By the way, as far as this statement:

"Then, middle-way self reminds me of our most important task - alleviate the suffering, and start with oneself."

I have found that if you actually focus on relieving the suffering in others... it will do far more for you than if you are inwardly focused and just try to relieve the suffering in yourself. We all suffer in many ways. If not physically, then there is much more mentally and emotionally to deal with. Being thankful for what we have and trying to help others though is about the best remedy I have ever found for any suffering that I've had to go through.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Robert Daoust

Hi Grace. Like kerrianne and Justin, I will comment on the following:

"Then, my middle-way self will gently push herself forward and try her best to see the balance of 9/11 and Katrina and everything else. That it's all suffering and that our work is to alleviate suffering, as much as we can.
Then, middle-way self reminds me of our most important task - alleviate the suffering, and start with oneself.
So, I will run. Long may I run."

Your words are the subject of my blog today (http://aboutsuffering.blogspot.com/). I would like to collect together all instances of people saying that suffering is a first concern. Because if it is so important, I suppose there should be a place where suffering, all suffering, is dealt with, as a first concern, before anything else. Thus, yes, there would be one simple place where we could address in a coherent theoretical and practical framework all the huge variety of problems, hurricanes and terrorism, racism and insanity... Setting up such a place is what I advocate.

Take good care of yourself.

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